CrazyQ

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Our area gas prices have fallen between 5% and 9%. In an imperfect world, nothing is going to track perfectly.
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archetypical

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Again, the money people won't let the market correct itself naturally through the laws of supply and demand. Demand decreases, so they cut back on oil imports and on refinery capacity to artificially keep prices high.
How long will this be allowed to continue? At this rate we'll need to get more alternative energy out there fast because they'll never give up the windfall profits they're gouging from the working class.
And to all of the "Drill more, drill here, drill now" folks, it may help to keep in mind what happens when we have a steady supply outweighing demand -- they cut the supply that reaches the public in order to keep prices high. Increasing domestic drilling will not solve the problem or provide economic relief at home. It will, however, give more money to people who are currently raping the economy so they can continue to off-shore and outsource work to other countries for cheaper goods they can sell here for higher prices due to our consistently weaker dollar.
Unfortunately all it takes to get people to buy into a terrible plan is to tell them to stick it to the middle east. They aren't the ones destroying the U.S. Economy people -- Irresponsible Lenders, Big Business, Big Oil, Price Manipulation, and Speculation are doing that just fine by themselves.
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zrcat

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To JimL1 and all the other posters that agree with him. You do not have a clue, not a clue in your tiny little brain on how the markets work. Thats okay though, thats what free speech is all about. Oh, yeh, lets contact our government officals about the problem. Just what we need, MORE government intervention. "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help"-Ronald Reagan
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djhone

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Ok, honestly!! can we not all agree that we need increased refinery capacity, and clearly there have been record profits recently to pay for the investment.
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ss70

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let gas prices to go to $4.50 again the oil industry will see what is Demand Destruction.
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armstrmb

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Maybe this bouncing ball will go down soon.
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Mahalo98

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It seems like all the parties are have plans to remedy the high price of oil and supply & demand market, and for all the talk the markets have begun to correct themselves (who would have thunk it).
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bauerboy

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This data is outdated the minute it comes out.
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dls_txxs_grl

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that was a good one about gravity lol'
peace,
jenna
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Dale Jr.

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And the price of gas is falling where I'm at - $3.78.
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Bannack

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Gravity works LOL
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wild3bill

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With the recent price dip, we fill our tanks and keep em full to the next gouge. Then we run near empty, buy just what we need until the next Dip
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Sabredude

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keep going down!
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s6sputnik

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Austins prices have moved down a LITTLE bit!
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DarthDadJr

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JimL1 makes good points about the commodity market and speculators...unfortunately, much of the so called "speculation" is funded by pensions funds who moved money into commodities when the stock market started to decline. Speculation is only part of the whole story...world demand is rising faster than production -- that is the bigger part of the problem. Prices are dropping because demand has dropped...thus the "speculators" are unwinding their positions and forcing the price of oil to drop more. Let's be real...oil is not going to drop much below $100s and price of gas is never going below $2 again. We have to start learning to live in a world where resources, like oil, are going to be scarcer.
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rivasj19

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i see that gas prices have derease a bit in my town
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amacquarrie

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hmmmm
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gasie1

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Small drop in gas prices is only temporary.
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dreamweaver7050

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still waiting for price at the pump to go down
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CTTeacher

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I agree rbdesigns...
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WillyG

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It's a No Win situation. The demand drops, the producers lay off workers, produce less, this way the crude stock stays low, and they keep the prices up, and raise 'em some mo'
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RochBear

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This is actually good news, Oil stock(Piles) rose even as imported oil declined. This means we Americans are conserving.
this should help keep prices steady
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rbdesigns

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Supply and demand! They have more supply & we are demanding less, shouldn't prices keep dropping? They will find a reason to raise them again!
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Wolfwings

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So, crude prices go up, station prices go up. Refinery costs go up, station prices go up. Crude prices go down, station prices go up. And, government stockpile of orude goes up, station prices go up. CAN ANYONE SAY DOWM???
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JB1881

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The market works! Wow what a suprise! Now if the Democrats in Congress would let us drill for OUR OWN OIL WHERE EVER IT IS. The market would take notice too!
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coolpado

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Interesting
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Dennis783

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Wow, demand fell AND prices fell in the same week. Don't see that often any more!
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Brn2bEvl

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Gas will never be as low as it once was.
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EXTREMESNOW

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NOT SURE IF STOCKS FALLING ARE A GOOD THING, I'M INVESTED IN THEM???
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RCinNM

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Just when the gas prices started going down around here!
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masrod

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I agree with JimL1. Speculators are controlling the price. You can thank people like people like John McCain's economic advisor Phil Gram, the same guy who says we're a "nation of whiners" in a "mental recession".
Gramm was one of five co-sponsors of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000[3]. One provision of the bill was referred to as the "Enron loophole" because Gramm drafted it in cooperation with lobbyists for Enron Corporation. Critics blame the provision for permitting the Enron scandal to occur.[4] At the time, Gramm's wife was on Enron's board of directors.
(Gramm resigned from John McSame's campaign, but is still advising him.)
Unite for Change! Obama '08!
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RF4CPhantom

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7/25/2008 6:47:57 AM
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Very interesting~!
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HockeyLady

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keep conserving--and Drill
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Brockvillian

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Right on the money JimL1. Right on the money!
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rtw777

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Jiml1 and Fred seem to be one person. A very wrong person.
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10pennypincher

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use less and win!!
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canescommuter

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Keep conserving, bring OPEC to their knees.
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unclebobMO

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Wow
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rod1965

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Somebody translate for me. good or bad?
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JimL1

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I still have to wonder what kind of funny stuff Eaglev is smoking. Anyone who has not yet studied the futures markets and the manner in which the speculators control the price of the supply for only 5% of the cost of that supply has their head in the sand, is smoking funny stuff, or is listening to Rush Lamebrain and become one of his dittoHeads.
I still maintain that the main part of the problem is the speculators and their ability to control the price of oil by putting up only 5% of the value of the futures contracts that they purchase. My earlier suggestion still stands:
"Write your congressmen and in your own words say something like the following: If congress and Bush had the necessary fortitude they could end the oil and fuel crisis and these insane prices tomorrow. The only way to end the oil & fuel crisis is to require that speculators have to put up a higher percentage of the contracts that they purchase. It is very simple. Instead of allowing them to purchase a million dollar contract and cause its price to rise by putting up 5%, require that speculators put up something between 50 and 100%. The speculators profit would shrink, less would take the risk for smaller gain and prices would drop. Those holding current contracts would receive margin calls on them and they would have to come up with the difference or sell their contracts. Congress should do this and watch Bush veto it!!!"
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FizedNH

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No kidding...
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BoerneWatch

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The refiners are buying fewer barrels of expensive oil, they are using their stockpiles that cost less and the refiners are betting oil will drop soon. Oh yeah, it did.
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edgarbrn

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Why doesn't this surprise me?
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The_WB

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Makes no sense to me.
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my3sons

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we're using less, how did that happen?
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NavyEOD

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Even when demand is down. Should we believe this?
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HiDesertPaul

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LOOK WHO IS STOPPING DRILLING! DON'T VOTE FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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starjacko

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Gas prices will stay high.
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niceguytx

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The monopoly and cartel will continue to gauge supply to meet demand.
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Chazzer

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It's just a ploy to keep gas prices high!
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