honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:58:49 PM
now, if we would only go back to the low demand we had in August 2008 when the prices artificially gouged people... oh, wait, that's a pipe dream, ain't it?
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:57:53 PM
cathevan: you are so right.
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1006

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 5:13:55 PM
yea, not sure of the point here.
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julius1st4

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:03:33 PM
SO; just what are you trying to say???
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djgunrunner

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:41:01 AM
The people have forgotten what is was like to buy gas or food. We shall be reminded of it shortly.
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ReadyWriter

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:38:51 AM
They're only going to help weaken the economy again by playing the greed game just because it shows a little spark of life coming back. We need to get the ones who create all this chaos slapped with taxes or penalties or something to DISCOURAGE them instead of giving them so many breaks and letting them make us slip and slide in the high oil price market.
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outlaw329

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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:38:26 AM
filcut, know how you feel.
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Tamas2evil

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:36:32 AM
and this is the reason we have higher gas prices... Surprise!
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:34:03 AM
up down al around; where they stop nobody knows. the magical federal government keeps us all guessing.
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Blackice

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:31:33 AM
The dollar is down today $0.44 and oil is down $0.97 at this time.
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filcut

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Anchorage
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:29:09 AM
Out of work so nowhere to go = less gas bought, duh!!
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Hugo40

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:28:01 AM
Prices at the pump do not seem to fall with the economy.
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diatzikis

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:25:58 AM
And today I paying 3:00 per gal?
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ricker8

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:24:49 AM
economics doesn't fit into their way pf price setting
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justinoles

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:20:38 AM
to bad normal economics don't apply to oil
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Sealer

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Charleston
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:14:34 AM
Price is determined by global supply and demand. Demand didn't drop as much in growing areas like Asia.
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Dipstick1

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Amarillo
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:13:34 AM
Not nearly enough...that's how much.
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ladyaglow

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:13:31 AM
Come on! Drill baby drill.
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goldilox88

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:09:52 AM
Everything seems to fuel higher prices.
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danny999

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:06:50 AM
IT'S SURE GETTING MANIPULATED THOUGH.
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Buck_on_Bass

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:05:47 AM
After September 11, 2001, we have nearly a week with no commercial or private aircraft flying. Grounding so many airplanes contributed to a big drop in aviation fuel. This time we had the aircraft flying so the drop in gasoline sales must have been much larger.
While there are technical signs the recessions may have ended, we still are lacking the employment growth to put people back to work.
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bozo

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:04:25 AM
SVmike has it right.
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rimpyCA

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:03:44 AM
gas mafia is minting money from us
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hblee

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:03:15 AM
Conservation and alternative energy is what we should all be doing.
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SVmike

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:00:54 AM
rfe330: "Keep alternative energy out of the hands of the oil companies or don't bother developing alternative energy. "
This makes no sense to me. It makes good sense for large profitable companies to invest that money in finding new, profitable energy sources. They have a large stable income source (from oil and NG) and can use it, on perhaps risky ventures. Do you really think everything is a conspiracy?
The idea that some lone inventor will toil away in his/her basement and suddenly discover some big new clean alternative energy source that will change the world only happens in the movies -- written, by the way, by people who generally have near zero expertise in physics and engineering.
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Bleeder

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:59:25 AM
No surprise that there is a link between demand and the recession.
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fedex09

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:57:03 AM
According to our government we are just all seeing better times. Where I live you cant buy a job.
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guacamaya66

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:55:47 AM
Gas is up beacause of the especulation. Do not pay more for gas! Shopping around!
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silvolvo

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:55:32 AM
Agree with BYOFDAD!
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truckguy115

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:54:53 AM
another article by PD states otherwise that we Americans set the price of gasoline so what is this all about. either way we get screwed and the jobs will disappear when fuel prices increase again.
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hwmillerster

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:52:45 AM
It doesn't make much difference if you can afford a tank of relatively inexpensive gas because you are living off unemployment or you can't afford high priced gas living off a paycheck.
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SUPERQUACK

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:50:09 AM
IF DEMAND IS DOWN , WHY IS THE PRICE OF OIL AND GAS UP ?
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esorsd

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:50:01 AM
Supply and Demand in action.
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investmentdr

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:48:27 AM
duh
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bbreff

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:44:34 AM
They can be made to look like abnything desired. BLAH
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:44:20 AM
I'm not sure I agree with this.
SUPPLY is what the provider will ALLOW to be sold. The AVAILABILITY to provide the oil is controlled by the Oil Barrons, wheather they be called OPEC or EXXON or WHOLESALER.
The DEMAND is WE CONSUMERS make it. If we REFUSE to buy, demand goes down, followed shortly by PRICES, since oil products have a LIMITED shelf life, and, like fresh produce, will go bad and haVE no value TO THE DEMANDERS.
WE set prices, NOT Tthe supply side.
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walkit1

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Memphis
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:28:40 AM
The recession started in Dec. of 2007 and we knew about it fully by the fall of 2008. We must plan trips and conserve as much as we can.
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TJC47

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:22:34 AM
Not surprising !
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ebowMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:21:26 AM
You need to look at worldwide demand, and other places that people would invest instead of oil, to really figure out how supply and demand work here.
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byoftDad

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:20:06 AM
The principle of "Supply & Demand" does not apply to the pricing of oil. This is an animal that is controlled by the greed of speculators & oil industry executives.
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rfe330

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:19:47 AM
Keep alternative energy out of the hands of the oil companies or don't bother developing alternative energy.
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unicornpmb

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:19:15 AM
I'm starting to wonder if what we do as consumers really matters anymore.
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CatMan623

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:18:30 AM
Thanks for the info. One comment, though.....don't try to use real data. It doesn't get past the "greed" filters.
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POLELANE

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:18:23 AM
is it or isn't it? was it or is it? we have so many federal bean counters, and they all come up with different totals; different meanings;/ who do you trust? I trust the signs I see at gas stations; and gasbudy helps with that.
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TTM77

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:18:18 AM
I just got lay off.. yes I will drive less.
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Tekkie

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:15:34 AM
More greed
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Jarod13

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:55:52 AM
sailormon -- yes indeed, that the oil-producing nations, oil companies and refineries, along with the speculators, all seem to believe that the economy is starting to rebound and that we consumers should be the ones that line their pockets with humongous profits. The bottom line is, that if we want lower oil prices, we need to do two things, conserve and drill in order to reduce our consumption while at the same time increasing the amount of oil our nation produces. We also need to develop alternative energy sources to meet our every growing and insatiable need for oil and oil-based products.
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sailormon

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:33:31 AM
"While we won't see 2010 demand rise to impressive numbers, the market and economy apparently believe we will, even betting on it by buying contracts today in hope of selling down the road at a higher price."
There you go...They are betting at your expense!!
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Robert44

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:26:54 AM
So it does matter what we do prices continue to go up!!
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raleightom

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:22:20 AM
Seems obvious to me.
Our newer automobiles are getting better mileage. Alternative energy forms are seeing use in all parts of our society. Highest unemployment in our history (IE: Far fewer commuters and far less idling in traffic at rush hour). Petrol averaging $80 a barrel now vs OPEC saying three years ago that all they needed was $27.
I think this is happening regardless of the recession.
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